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Post by Emily on Jun 5, 2006 20:53:57 GMT
organised religion ought to be abolished.
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Post by Ally on Jun 5, 2006 22:32:04 GMT
I have no problem with organised religion as long as the people who follow it don't try to ram it down everyone's throats (I had no clue how many people I knew here were in the CU till I randomly went to the ball). Fundamentalism should be abolished, 'cos that's how people get killed and women have to stay at home and have lots of babies.
I want to infiltrate that college and cause a sex scandal that will lose it all its student intake.
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Post by Animae on Jun 6, 2006 2:06:33 GMT
I firmly beleive that we should go back to the old, and by old I mean pagan ways. That we would respect the earth and eachother more if we were more ballanced.
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Post by Ally on Jun 6, 2006 5:49:19 GMT
I was reading about druidry the other day and it's really interesting...they were saying pretty much everything I already believed. And they keep the bardic tradition going, which is awesome. Plus, no actual doctrine, so no guy standing up with a book telling me what to think. But that's just me. If someone wants to go to x building on x day, fair enough, just as long as they don't start telling me I'm due eternal suffering unless I join them. (Or that I should stop working as soon as I pop out a baby, or that gay people are going to hell, or all the rest of that crap). I do think that there should be laws keeping religion out of politics altogether. In fact, out of anything to do with the state (ie no religious schools, no compulsory worship), because what a person believes is none of anyone else's business. All those people last night saying that they want to stop moral degeneration by pushing their own religious agenda in politics - as if you never get any atheists with a good moral code. Ugh. Yeah, I was thinking about this instead of sleeping... Rant's over now, I promise. ;D
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Post by petrobrad on Jun 6, 2006 15:27:23 GMT
I was going to say something and then I forgot what..... wait it's come back.
Those bloody psychotic christians who stand in the middle of the high street screaming you are all going to hell unless you convert should be banned from the streets. I'm all for freedom of speech, but what about my right to have a nice peaceful shop in the high street without being condemned for what I am and my beliefs.
I always thought that if you are a generally nice person, i.e. you help those in need, look after the environment, don't steal, kill etc etc that if entities like god exist then they would let you in heaven because the only thing different they've done to a supposed good christian is that you didn't worship them, and if god is supposed to be good, loving and all forgiving then he wouldn't condemn you for that.
Anyway, hasn't christianity basically stolen ideas from most other religions, as it branched off from judaism (christians seem to forget that Jesus was a Jew and not a christian), and as the church grew and came across other religions they assimilated ideas they could use to their advantage, such as satan.
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Post by Animae on Jun 6, 2006 15:47:42 GMT
Try pointing that out to them. Or that the birth of their savior was probably in september. And that Christmas was a roman pagan holiday, and see how purple with rage they turn.
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Post by Lu on Jun 6, 2006 17:54:19 GMT
that'll test their 'love thy neighbour' ways
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Post by Ally on Jun 6, 2006 18:15:14 GMT
What I find really funny is that you can knock down most of the (funda)mentalists beliefs by using passages from the Bible. When they start going on about everyone else's sins - "But didn't Jesus say that before you criticise the speck of sawdust in another person's eye, you should think about the plank of wood in your own?"
I agree with Pete - as long as you don't kill, rape or torture anyone, and avoid buggering up the environment any more than is necessary to live a normal life, then you're doing OK. (Personally I don't want there to be an afterlife, the idea of being stuck somewhere for infinity scares me however lovely it might be. I just want to keep being reincarnated).
I was having a look at our pagan society's site today and they look pretty cool...might go along next year.
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Post by Animae on Jun 6, 2006 21:41:33 GMT
most of us pagans are, but you got to be a little careful of the 14 year old ones that are trying to piss of their parents. speaking as someone who has been doing this since she was a kid, despite her mothers best efforts, they can be a bit, ummmm stupid.
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Post by Ally on Jun 7, 2006 2:10:53 GMT
Well, it's a uni club, so there won't be any 14-year-olds (most of the ones round here are too busy getting pregnant anyways ;D)
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Post by Animae on Jun 7, 2006 3:46:12 GMT
I swear that kids should know how to use condoms by now. I knew how to use one when I was 12. Not that I needed to use it, I just knew.
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Post by Ally on Jun 7, 2006 16:46:17 GMT
And it's not like they're difficult to find...you can buy them everywhere...
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Post by Animae on Jun 7, 2006 18:56:20 GMT
someplaces even give them out for free!!! So you don't have to buy them!!!
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Post by Emily on Jun 7, 2006 20:12:23 GMT
most of us pagans are, but you got to be a little careful of the 14 year old ones that are trying to piss of their parents. speaking as someone who has been doing this since she was a kid, despite her mothers best efforts, they can be a bit, ummmm stupid. and the Buffy Wiccans... you know the ones I mean... think its all wearing black and casting spells, and not actually a religious thing at all. Thats one of the only things joss whedon ever did that annoyed me, I mean you never saw Willow doing the religious ceremony side of things...
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Post by Animae on Jun 8, 2006 17:58:43 GMT
Yeah, but at the same time he wasn't entrely un informed, with the goddesses etc that he had her call.
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Post by Emily on Jun 8, 2006 19:42:30 GMT
anyone knows that stuff, I know all the goddesses et c, just from loving mythology when I was little...
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Post by Animae on Jun 8, 2006 20:46:04 GMT
You would be suprised how many people have no idea about that stuff.
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Post by Ally on Jun 8, 2006 23:38:07 GMT
Didn't someone over at SIPFans once convince someone that a statue of Kali was actually Hecate and she should buy it for her shrine? (Like you should even be making a shrine if you confuse those two)
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Post by Animae on Jun 8, 2006 23:41:37 GMT
I would frankly be more afraid of Kali than Hecate!
I vauegly remember something like that happening. Sometimes the people on the board get odd. Nuke annoys me sometimes with the ultra religion thing. And the way he kinda ragged on lei when she asked how to know if your gay.
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Post by Ally on Jun 8, 2006 23:45:11 GMT
He does tend to overstress it, yeah. I find religions interesting, but I think he's made his point now. (I don't remember his conversation with Lei...)
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