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Post by tangent on Mar 4, 2010 16:07:59 GMT
Not quite. It answers the question of if they're immortal (but then, how immortal are the fae? Do they live for millions and millions of years? Do they depend on human imagination to some extent (at which point, wiping out all of the humans could result in the loss of Faerie and the fae)?) but not to the extent that Keti and Beansprout are "mortal." (For that matter, how long do the weres live for?) The extended lifespan is a valid question. ^^
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Post by Emily on Mar 4, 2010 16:16:36 GMT
- faeries live until they die, how long that is isn't really ever specified.
-faeries don't require the belief of in-universe humans to live. They need to be believed in by their *audience*, because they believe they are fictional. So technically, if you wiped all of US out then they wouldn't exist any more because no one would be their to hear their story.
Flibbage refers to were, humans and part humans as mortal because they have a fixed lifespan. don't really know how long that is, I would expect half fey to live longer than humans. The weres might natuarally live as long as a human, but I expect they wouldn't last as long because pack in-fighting might take out the older members.
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Post by wanderer on Mar 4, 2010 16:18:17 GMT
Not quite. It answers the question of if they're immortal (but then, how immortal are the fae? Do they live for millions and millions of years? Do they depend on human imagination to some extent (at which point, wiping out all of the humans could result in the loss of Faerie and the fae)?) but not to the extent that Keti and Beansprout are "mortal." (For that matter, how long do the weres live for?) The extended lifespan is a valid question. ^^ Keti and Beansprout are "mortal" so far as anything I was talking about. They are the mortals who cannot comprehend generics, and in fact cannot even seem to remember being told about it. That is the "mortal" issue that I was talking about. In terms of lifespan I have no idea. Scientifically speaking, Keti's lucky she could be alive at all, as crossbreeding between species is far more likely to either be impossible or result in a baby that could never survive due to mismatched organs and stuff. Fortunately, this is Faerie (THIS. IS. FAERIE! ...Sorry) where rules of story can tell unimportant things like biology to take a hike. Edit: Ninja'd by Emily. At first glance that seems to make sense, but then I thought about it more. Does that mean a Faerie would believe that if a tree fell in the forest and no one was around to hear it it wouldn't make a sound? If the existence of something depends on it being observed, then no person or object exists independently. ...Arg. Brain not up for philisophical thinking just now.
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Post by tangent on Mar 4, 2010 17:09:04 GMT
Damn. Now I'm thinking of a Rescript of an old comic where Jin suggests Keti use Sparkle as a sacrificial goat in telling Beansprout that Keti's gay. The final line would be "Hmm... Nah. I'd be scrubbing blood stains for weeks" and Jin saying "But we'd be rid of Sparkle!" =^-^= (Basically using the strip where Jin asks "why not Daniel?")
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Post by Emily on Mar 4, 2010 17:43:03 GMT
When we invented our faeries,we asked "why do faeries die if you say you don't believe in them?" our answer was that they know they are in a fiction... that led on to reasoning that faeries can do pretty much anything they put their will to because they know that physics/time/matter are all inconstant in the fictitious world, the only limit being what the reader will accept. why should they die so long as their audience remains interested in them, why should they grow old when they can just wave a hand and say "we're faeries, we live in faerieland, we're immortal and have magical powers" and the reader will accept it. BUT the downside to this is that they have to engage the readers suspension of disbelief by being entertaining- thus generics appears, the art of understanding what the story wants to be and turning to your own ends without losing youfr precious audience. It must work... you're all still reading
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Post by tangent on Mar 4, 2010 18:44:44 GMT
I think that's more due to your skill as a storytelling artist and Ally's skill as a storytelling writer (and colorist). ^^
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Post by tangent on Mar 8, 2010 15:07:19 GMT
Nice work with the shadows and the play of light from the door. Though I'm surprised we didn't see more of Iordan's shadow; I guess Keti's not the only one who can see right through him. =^-^= (Yes, I know. The bed's far enough in, and the source of light is high enough, that Iordan isn't blocking it from where he is. Or only blocking part of it.) Iordan learns an important lesson that what a woman says and what she means may not necessarily be the same. ^^;; Though I find it amusing she looks annoyed at his ineptitude in this. Like it's his fault he doesn't have many female friends... his class is full of guys (and An). Pretty much the only female friend he has (outside of An) is Keti. And she's confusing enough as it is. I know what Keti needs. She needs a nice calming pie. What coordinates are they at? =^-^=
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Post by Emily on Mar 8, 2010 15:13:38 GMT
will ya just quit talking about pie?
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Post by tangent on Mar 8, 2010 15:28:14 GMT
It was a Girl Genius reference. Okay. It was a blatant link pluggage for Girl Genius. I do that. (I had one person on the MT forums grumbling because I've addicted him to five new webcomics through links to comics during discussion threads; I drop webcomic links like other people drop TV Tropes links. Which, btw, includes Footloose, one of my favorite comics to link. ^^)
*chuckles* You're really annoyed at the hijacking of the tagboard, aren't you? Comments on art and shadows and even characterization go unnoticed. Don't worry, I'll avoid that type of silliness here. (Heck, the conversation on the Tagboard has already shifted to comic-related stuff, hasn't it?)
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Post by stokerino on Mar 8, 2010 15:32:13 GMT
I never read the tagboard, because it's blocked (for being 'Chat') at work, and I don't generally go on the website at home, having usually seen any new comics by that point.
From the sound of it, I'm not missing much.
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Post by tangent on Mar 8, 2010 15:48:58 GMT
Normally it's related to Footloose. But someone accused me of "killing catgirls" by explaining the process of the creation of honey which someone else was attributing to magic and the silliness exploded from there. (To be honest, pies barely factored into it. I suspect Em got annoyed by the whole kit and kaboodle and latched onto one brief comment on the tagboard. The pie reference was meant to be a gentle tease of Emily and also link Girl Genius which is twenty levels of coolness (Foglio's like the Pratchett of comic books and webcomics).
Anyway, back to the topic of discussion, I have to wonder what Keti's going to talk about. I mean, Iordan seems too... generically unaware to be able to lead the conversation into an area that could help Keti. Though he might surprise me; he was doing some good back at the bar back before the An/Daniel fight.
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Post by tangent on Mar 8, 2010 18:50:01 GMT
*ponders* Okay. Had he stepped out and then reopened the door and partly close it behind him when Keti called out to him? That would explain the shadow better as it was obviously narrowing but I can't see him shutting himself in the room after what she'd said, or her getting peeved at him. *ponder ponder ponder*
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Post by Emily on Mar 8, 2010 20:09:04 GMT
its all "catgirls and pie" with you people. only teasing
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Post by tangent on Mar 8, 2010 22:22:31 GMT
Pie is good though.
Especially chocolate creme pie. Mmmm... pie....
(Just wish the fardling stuff didn't hurt my throat. Damn chocolate allergy. Or rather the emulsifier in chocolate in all likelihood.)
So. Does Iordan like fried chicken? Or is he more of a chicken and gravy with crust sort of chap? =^-^=
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Post by wanderer on Mar 8, 2010 23:16:58 GMT
I suspect fried chicken will simply be what An finds for takeout, and will have no real significance whatsoever.
As for Iordan, he's still the best choice for this conversation. There's no one better available for Keti to talk with.
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Post by tangent on Mar 8, 2010 23:46:29 GMT
I think the significance of the fried chicken is that An will bring it back to Daniel's room and after Keti is done talking to Iordan she'll catch a glimpse of them eating the fried chicken and An flirting with Daniel. And something inside Keti will curl up in a little ball and whimper pathetically.
But then, I am evil. ^^
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Post by Nayru on Mar 9, 2010 18:12:31 GMT
*ponders* Okay. Had he stepped out and then reopened the door and partly close it behind him when Keti called out to him? That would explain the shadow better as it was obviously narrowing but I can't see him shutting himself in the room after what she'd said, or her getting peeved at him. *ponder ponder ponder* seriously, you think too much... this is faerie, physics need not apply. love and fried chicken, hmm... given the image on the title page i'm inclined to believe tangent's theory, but then again, just because it's on the title page doesn't mean it's going to happen just like that. unfortunately i can't come up with a theory of my own given that the fact that i would never associate love with fried chicken, as i really don't like chicken at all. so that just keeps repeating in my head whenever i think about it.
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Post by tangent on Mar 11, 2010 22:28:35 GMT
Tsk. But if you try to apply physics to Faerie (and Footloose) then the artist and writer get all twitchy! It's fun to watch! =^-^=
And it's not the fried chicken that is associated with love. It's the fact that Daniel and An are going to be alone together eating something, and Kaeti (as I call Keti's fae aspect) is going to get angsty about it. Because it should be her in there, feeding An the chicken one piece at a time. (You know, I must admit some curiosity that Beansprout has pretty much no fae features... unless she'd normally be a blonde and her fae half showed through black hair? oO)
The thing about An/Daniel is that it's going to lead to heartache for An because Daniel still has conflicted feelings about Sparkle. When Sparkle's inevitable rescue occurs, she's going to try to glom to Daniel (especially if Keti rescues her because shipping Keti and Sparkle is so evil it's amusing... and Sparkle will try to avoid that fate even if it means death first! Hmm... foehay...) and the poor boy is going to end up accidentally hurting An.
Um, not that the Kittens spied on Ally and are giving me reports or anything... *shiftyeyes*
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Post by Emily on Mar 14, 2010 12:32:32 GMT
But Beansprout 's hair is *blue*.
Plus for quite a while no one knew that Sprout's dad was fey, so it was probably quite important to Red to make sure she looked human, Cabbage may have been in on this.
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Post by tangent on Mar 14, 2010 17:02:58 GMT
I apologize. I've got blue/black color blindness. =^-^=
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