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Post by stokerino on Jun 14, 2010 17:47:15 GMT
I'm available any time between June 26th - July 4th. >_>
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Post by Emily on Jun 15, 2010 8:01:17 GMT
YEEEAH!
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Post by stokerino on Jun 15, 2010 8:42:21 GMT
In my past anime marathons I've generally watched series in two parts: starting early on one evening, watched as many as I can be bothered to stay awake for, then finished the rest the following morning.
Then of course, the afternoon after you finish you GO OUTSIDE. Because by then you'll kind of need it. :-p
Sounds like an excellent venture to me.
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Post by Emily on Jun 15, 2010 9:56:20 GMT
and then the sun burns you up.
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Post by stokerino on Jun 15, 2010 10:09:39 GMT
In the shade, Em. Outside in the shade. ¬_¬
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Post by jonathan on Jun 16, 2010 0:20:05 GMT
Magical Shopping Arcade Abenobashi has the worst ending ever.
Is it, like, a REVERSE Gainax ending? I mean, it was technically happy but it was also incredibly frustrating and even nihilistic.
Apparently they're producing a new special right now. I shan't get my hopes up for meaningful resolution.
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Post by Emily on Jun 16, 2010 19:54:26 GMT
I've forgotten how it ends after he turns out to be a magician..
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Post by jonathan on Jun 16, 2010 21:36:43 GMT
He resets everything so Arumi's grandfather is alive, the arcade isn't getting torn down, and her family doesn't have to move away.
Basically a big "Fuck you" to 12 episodes of development.
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Post by Emily on Jun 16, 2010 23:08:45 GMT
Oh yeah the Big "lets live in denial because we have magical powers cop-out." I'd forgotten that. Seeing as the whole series revolves around his subconscious ploys to get away from the real world it was a shame to have him basically get his way in the end.
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Post by jonathan on Jun 17, 2010 0:18:45 GMT
Just watched 1.11. Thoughts during the first hour: "Lol all the water is red. Bland linework. Everything's too dark. Why are Unit 01's green bits now glow-in-the-dark? RAINBOWS EVERYWHERE. Why are the numbers of the Angels off by one? Everything else is the same." Thoughts after Ramiel starts doing things: "Well this is diffOH GOD WHAT" Thoughts 36 seconds before the credits: ".....what?" Basically it was mostly the same events save a couple of subtle details (some almost certainly very important), then the battle against Ramiel is ramped up and much cooler (though functionally the same), then something really fucking confusing is shown right at the end. I don't like it visually, though. Someone seems to have fallen in love with covering everything up with excessive effects and camera blur. Maybe some people are impressed by shit like this, but I like to be able to see what I'm looking at. I'll take striking and distinctive cinematography and strong compositions over generic flashy digital bullshit any day. And those are shots where you can at least make out what's happening. I was able, after much deliberation and examining the best stills I could take by going through frame by frame, to figure out that this shot shows Unit 00's face and possibly the shield blocking Ramiel's beam in front of it. But when watching it was one of many shots where my only thought was "What am I looking at here?" Never mind how unnecessarily dark alot of it is. There's also the general fact that modern digital anime looks flat compared to traditional cel anime. At the very least they could've used bolder line-work with some variation in thickness, but as it is they're too even, too skinny, and too perfect compared to the organic quality real ink gives. The colours also feel less rich. And don't get me started on the GODDAMN RAINBOWS. Despite my complaints I look forward to the second film (tomorrow, since it's taken an age to download).
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Post by Emily on Jun 17, 2010 8:28:06 GMT
so is this just a reimagining of the whole damn thing? (+ special effects)?
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Post by stokerino on Jun 17, 2010 9:09:49 GMT
Yes. Although some of the preview for the 2nd one looked like it had a load of different stuff (I haven't actually got round to even watching the 1st one yet...I just flicked through it).
I sort of wonder if they're going to go more the route of the mangas, but then I think they only really get different towards the end when Kaworu shows up.
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Post by jonathan on Jun 17, 2010 14:58:43 GMT
Yeah, the second one is going to be REALLY different (still haven't watched it yet). The preview indicates that we will actually see Evas up to Unit 06! I was expecting at least one more than before since there's a whole new pilot character (Mari), but that many was a surprise. By the way, I am operating under the assumption that it is all actually a sequel. First frame of the fourth shot of the last scene of End of Eva. Very first frame of Rebuild part 1.
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Post by Emily on Jun 17, 2010 18:01:38 GMT
I think they only really get different towards the end when Kaworu shows up. AND KILLS A KITTEN! EVIL EEEEEVIL.
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Post by stokerino on Jun 17, 2010 22:55:52 GMT
Yes! :@ Instant heat!
I was halfway through making a post like "Hmm, if the films really are sequels (thus giving the name 'Rebuild' in a more literal sense rather than simply meaning 're-made') and Shinji has effectively recreated the same shitty circumstances of his own will, then he really must be fucked up"...before the other half of my brain interrupted me with a loud "DUUUUHHHHHH".
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Post by jonathan on Jun 20, 2010 2:29:02 GMT
Well 2.22 was fucking different. Overall, it goes for a much more spectacular feel than the series: there's loads and loads of absolutely incredible action, and the plot twists and "changes" from the series hand me wringing my hands. The finale had my jaw on the floor, and the post-credits after-finale had my forehead following it. Alot has been lost. Many, MANY Angels are omitted (six, by my count), and they're all ones that I feel led to some of the more gradual character development in the series. This is, I suppose, to be expected: it makes sense for movies to be more grandiose and less subtle than a 26 episode series. Not that the whole movie consists of action, there's a good bit of development, but it's seperate from the Angels rather than being a result of them. It still works, but basically, thus far, all of the Angels in Rebuild save one have been of the "totally overpowering physical abilities" sort, rather than being relatively weak but having properties that require a very particular method of attack (like Israfel or Gaghiel) or being an insidious, unseen, frightening psychological enemy (like Iruel or Leliel). Do I like this tradeoff? I haven't decided yet. Although this movie was very different, most of its events and battles were still heavily based on ones in the series. Anno apparently stated that the first three would be based on the series, and the fourth would provide an entirely new ending. However, I find it hard to see how the third film will be based on the series at all, given the state things are left in at the end of the second. Without spoiling anything, shit suddenly starts getting decidedly real about 7 minutes before the end, and continues in an exponential curve right up until the credits roll. Then the 30 seconds that happen after the credits turn that back on its head all over again. Anyway, regardless of whether I think the lowered subtlety has weakened the franchise's core themes or whatever nonsense, I can now say I am enjoying Rebuild and look forward to 3.0. Also... Three rainbows? THREE? IN THE SAME SHOT? REALLY NOW? REALLY?
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Post by Ally on Jun 20, 2010 8:01:57 GMT
If you did give them to Yash then she would no longer need them, since I own them all as well. :-p Perhaps a group marathon viewing (with Yash, Stu etc.) is in order... If I'm around, can I come? I've never seen the whole of Evangelion...
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Post by stokerino on Jun 20, 2010 10:51:03 GMT
Apparently rainbows are to Evangelion movies as lens flares were to Star Trek XI.
'Course you can Ally. No definite timing decided yet, but since Em tends to be busier on the weekends something around either Monday 28th and/or Tuesday 29th seems likely. That could all change completely, of course...
How much of EVA have you seen?
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Post by Ally on Jun 20, 2010 15:58:15 GMT
First couple of episodes...the only bit I really remember is the beer drinking, the penguin and the strategically placed objects.
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Post by stokerino on Jun 20, 2010 16:01:09 GMT
Heh, that's episode 2, I think?
You will love the second half of the series - the fucked up angst is immense. >_>
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