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Post by stuart alman on Oct 21, 2006 12:52:53 GMT
Well me and ed went to the cash and carry yesterday and bought enough fireworks to blow up a small country. £50 of fireworks between us worth at least £100 bwahahahaha.
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Post by Animae on Oct 22, 2006 1:23:25 GMT
why?
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Post by stokerino on Oct 22, 2006 16:07:38 GMT
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Post by Lu on Oct 22, 2006 18:01:00 GMT
Fireworks night appears to have started about a week ago here someone on my street keeps setting off one or two random fireworks a night.
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Post by stokerino on Oct 22, 2006 18:47:27 GMT
That could be overspill from Diwali, though.
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Post by Animae on Oct 23, 2006 6:01:14 GMT
"celebrate the birth of your nation by blowing up a small chunk of it"
any excuse for a fire!
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Post by stuart alman on Oct 23, 2006 10:47:28 GMT
aah yes apu had it right all along. Or celebrate ure nation by blowing up a chunk of wales even better
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Post by Emily on Oct 23, 2006 11:03:30 GMT
who calls it 'plot night' I have NEVER heard it called that... It's kind of forth of July-esque in its "Fuck you world, no one tells us what to do" sentiments...
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Post by stokerino on Oct 23, 2006 11:08:06 GMT
Except, you know, he failed.
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Post by Emily on Oct 23, 2006 11:11:38 GMT
what I meant was, we didn't like being catholic, so we stopped. along came guy fawkes (representing the cause of catholicism) and tried to blow stuff up (ignoring the whole religious persecution angle), and yes he failed... ENGLAND/protestanism triumphs, Fuck you catholic europe...
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Post by stokerino on Oct 23, 2006 11:25:13 GMT
"We didn't like being Catholic so we stopped".
Um, what?
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Post by Emily on Oct 23, 2006 11:30:28 GMT
Pedant. Okay. HENRY VIII wanted to divorce his wife so we adopted protestanism as our national religion. I was trying to make a brief summmation of the whole affair for someone who didn't study english history, not an indepth political/religious essay. the theory remains.
1) england becomes protestant 2) catholics didn't like it 3) Guy fawkes hatches plot 4) Plot is foiled 5) fireworks. Yay!
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Post by stokerino on Oct 23, 2006 11:37:34 GMT
To make this even more like an indepth politics/religious essay, Henry VIII was very Catholic in the way he like his church. Remarkably so, in fact. He just wanted Catholicism-minus-Pope. It was really only when the little weed that was Edward VI came to the throne with all the Protestant/Reformist people around him that we saw any proper changes being made.
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Post by Emily on Oct 23, 2006 11:44:55 GMT
the gunpowder plot was nearly a century later in the reign of James I, so why exactly does it matter?
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Post by stokerino on Oct 23, 2006 11:55:14 GMT
Because someone saying "you should be Catholic! GRR!" to a Protestant country is not exactly different from what Protestantism did to get there in the first place.
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Post by Ally on Oct 23, 2006 13:27:55 GMT
It was also largely because James was unpopular, being both incompetent and Scottish (which didn't sit well with the English nobles)
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Post by stokerino on Oct 23, 2006 13:56:58 GMT
Unpopular, yes. Scottish, yes. The whole "James I sucked as a king" perception has been challenged a lot by historians in recent years, though.
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Post by Emily on Oct 23, 2006 14:05:12 GMT
oh bloody hell historians! can't I just sum-up guy fawkes night in a couple of simple sentences for our friends across the pond! SHUT UP!
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Post by stokerino on Oct 23, 2006 14:39:10 GMT
I refuse to allow my A-Level education to go to waste in the face of such an appropriate opportunity.
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Post by stuart alman on Oct 23, 2006 15:06:02 GMT
henry the VIII only turned his back on catholism so he could get divorced without killing anyone thus protestants is born.
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