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Post by Emily on Dec 1, 2009 0:08:21 GMT
Seriously, is there anything worth watching* coming out now? Have I outgrown anime, or has the standard just slumped?
People keep telling me to watch Avatar: the last blehblehbleh... but it's not really anime (being american) I can't even be bothered to watch series 2 of the melancholy of Haruhi suzumiya.
Aha ennui, my beloved friend.
*By worth watching I mean that I would want to watch.
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Post by stokerino on Dec 1, 2009 7:31:22 GMT
You don't really want to watch series 2 of Haruhi...
Rather than airing the new series separately, they put the new episodes in amongst a re-airing of the original series. Sounds okay, right? 28 episodes, 14 in the original series, so that's actually another 14 new episodes.
However. Of those 14 new episodes, 8 of them are part of what is known as 'Endless Eight'. The premise is this is that they're stuck in a time loop (Groundhog Day style).
All eight of these episodes is effectively the same.
I'm serious.
There are very, very minor changes throughout (wearing different clothes, tiny differences in conversation, etc.), but at the end of the day you are spending 200 minutes on the same 25 minute (not particularly eventful) anime episode.
Naturally this has been shit on by almost everybody. Personally, I'm afraid to even download the thing.
As for whether we've outgrown anime, or standards are just currently shit, I've been wondering the same thing for a while. I have been known to fall in and out of my major interests for as much as 2-3 years at a time, so I thought it might be another bout of that. I did watch some episodes of Nadesico the other day - and enjoyed them - so I haven't stopped liking the anime I already liked, at least.
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Post by Emily on Dec 1, 2009 11:12:49 GMT
Thats the thing- I still love a lot of my old anime (I'm even thinking about buying the first series of full metal panic (NOT ALCHEMIST) on dvd because I haven't seen it in so long. Still adore my ghibli collection, still cackle like a witch over excel saga- just haven't watched anything new I really enjoyed since Ouran came out. Even Deathnote was kind of "Blahhh... fangirl fodder" .
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Post by stokerino on Dec 1, 2009 11:27:32 GMT
I liked Deathnote because of Light's delightful evilness. Also, Code Geass is probably the most recent anime that was awesome.
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Post by Emily on Dec 1, 2009 15:43:51 GMT
Yeah but it loses all it's momentum about halfway through. And Misa annoys the fuck out of me- it's like someone said "oh hell how are we gonna get the fangirls reading this, we need a love interest! Okay so... lets make her a -model! yes, and she'll be thick as shit and morally ambiguous, and now lets dress her like harajuku threw up on her cuz it's down with the kids." *cue cosplaying stampede*
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Post by stuart alman on Dec 1, 2009 15:54:43 GMT
I personally will not hear a bad word against Code Geass which was imense in both series. But besides that I am not aware of anything worth watching.
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Post by Emily on Dec 1, 2009 17:13:45 GMT
Obviously you were watching so hard that you totally failed to see that I am talking about DEATHNOTE.
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Post by Ally on Dec 1, 2009 17:44:34 GMT
I saw an episode of one called Eden of the East at anime club that looked interesting. It's a very odd story - a group of random, unconnected people are all given phones with a huge amount of money on, which they have to use for the benefit of Japan. The one who does the most good with their money gets to live. And there's memory loss, and conspiracy, and no-one knows who the person orchestrating the whole thing is or what he wants (he has the daft moniker "Mr Outside"), and I quite like it.
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Post by tangent on Dec 1, 2009 19:38:54 GMT
I'd suggest Ah My Goddess except I think you didn't like it the last time I mentioned it. ^^;;
There's Candy Boy. You can find those online (streaming). Hell, I even reviewed it. ^^;; Hmm. Can't really think of any anime that has gotten my attention, but mostly that's because I've realized most anime uses the "embarrassing and stupid misunderstanding" plotlines that I absolutely detest in movies and television so....
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Post by Emily on Dec 1, 2009 23:02:49 GMT
ah my goddess is okay, but it's part of that late-ninties-harem-anime genre. You've seen one you've seen them all.
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Post by tangent on Dec 2, 2009 0:05:05 GMT
I'd suggest "Wolf and Spice" (I think that's what it's called) but that's also apparently turned into a Harem Anime. Hmm. There's "5 Centimetres Per Second" though that's not a series so much as one three-part movie or the like. Um... I'm fairly sure "Maria Sama ga Miteru" isn't a harem anime, and most of the yuri elements are a matter of wishful thinking by viewers.
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Post by stokerino on Dec 2, 2009 7:19:28 GMT
Maria-sama could qualify as a harem anime in the sense that it's an all-girls school and virtually everyone seems to be a lesbian...
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Post by stuart alman on Dec 2, 2009 13:27:59 GMT
note to self ..... watch maria sama .....
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Post by stuart alman on Dec 2, 2009 13:28:32 GMT
i enjoyed mai otome if u haven't already seen it.
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Post by Ally on Dec 2, 2009 13:56:20 GMT
See, I much preferred Mai Hime. Funnier, and without the creepy "lose your virginity, lose your powers" theme.
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Post by stokerino on Dec 2, 2009 14:05:30 GMT
Mai Otome obviously had the hinderance of being an adaptation of another story, but they're both good series. The virginity/powers bit is thankfully not much more than a footnote, with the only really significant effect on the main story being that one of the Five Pillars who elopes with a guy rather than continue being an Otome.
The second half of Mai Hime is probably the best of the lot, for its Battle Royale-ness, but all of Mai Otome is probably better than the first half Mai Hime.
So you know: roughly the same, only one more evenly so than the other. >_>
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Post by Ally on Dec 2, 2009 17:23:22 GMT
The virginity/powers bit is thankfully not much more than a footnote, with the only really significant effect on the main story being that one of the Five Pillars who elopes with a guy rather than continue being an Otome. But it's part of the title! At least, that's what I thought Otome translated as... I remember it being a really big deal. I really didn't like the bit where one character (I can't remember any names) tried to manipulate the guy who is basically her dad into sleeping with her so she doesn't have to be an Otome any more. (I didn't like that she was in love with him, either - he'd raised her from a baby, for God's sake! It's very unlikely that she'd think of him as anything other than her father).
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Post by Emily on Dec 2, 2009 20:03:09 GMT
Otome is pretty much equivalent to "maiden" -it doesn't literally mean virgin but virginity is implied.
Dammit tim, where did we even used to get our bitorrents from? I'm almost tempted by haruhi now just out of morbid fascination. ..yes thats how long since I downloaded anime, I can't remember where to get it ¬_¬
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Post by stokerino on Dec 3, 2009 9:02:16 GMT
anime-source.com is a decent first port of call.
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Post by stuart alman on Dec 3, 2009 16:57:05 GMT
hehe sorry to cause so much controversy over otome i just liked the angst after the "slave" girl semi suicide lol.
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